Thursday, March 28, 2013

Jarome Iginla Has Been Traded

Iggy Leaves to Get His Cup

After a whirlwind of rumors and speculation we find out late on Wednesday that the Flames had traded Jarome Iginla to the Pittsburgh Penguins. In Exchange the Flames acquire Ben Hanowski, Kenneth Agostino and 2013 first round pick.

Neither Hanowski nor Agostino are elite prospects and many will argue if either of them will make the NHL at any point. Agostino is a left handed winger who has been scoring more than a point a game the last two years for Yale University. Hanowski is a right winger who plays for St.Cloud State, sounds like Hanowski has some size and is more mature and ready than Agostino.

Only time will tell if the return is worth anything. But when you trade a guy like Jarome, the return will never replace what he has brought to the fans and the organization.

Thank you Iggy!

Friday, March 22, 2013

Reload or REBUILD?


Did you notice I put rebuild in capitals ? My pet peeve with this organization is that every year we go for broke so we can get eighth. Every year they fall short, and they ruin their chance for a good draft choice.

The Flames core, simply put, did not get it done. We have a lot of pieces that could build a bright future. A bright, future is whole lot nicer than a dark and dreary present and no future. We can't afford to finish ninth or tenth and miss out another top 10 pick. If you are not going to make the playoffs, you might take your losses and get out of town.

The pieces include:

Iggy

A leader, a power forward who can carry a team on his back. Several teams would be interested in his services. A first pick, and a prospect at least.

Jbo

Probably the Flames' best asset, a minute eater, and best offensive defencemen this season. Easily a first round pick, and a great young defenceman to build.  What makes Jbo so valuable is that he still has another year left in his contract.

Scoreface

Leading scorer, cheap with a touch of grit.  What makes him so enticing is his cheap contract. A $2.5 million contract is a steal. We could easily get in a bidding war for his services.  I can imagine a couple of prospects and a number one pick.

Kipper

I still feel he is one of the best in the game; he thrives on pressure and plays with the best. I would think they could get a cheaper goalie with a second rounder, which the Flames so badly need.


I could go on but a future with three first rounders would hold a bright future. It would also give some cap relief in the off season. So yes, I am strongly in favour of a rebuild.



But not everyone agrees with me.  Here is another opinion from Mike Walsh:

If I was running the Flames, I would never, ever intentionally rebuild.  The only time I would rebuild is if it was forced upon the franchise, this is what happened up in Edmonton. They were hit so hard with injuries that they decided to blow it up. So, I would retool.

The Flames do have some attractive pieces that should be able to fetch a good return at or leading up to the  deadline. I could list almost every single player who should or could be moved but it is much easier to list the players that should not move. I wouldn’t move Jay Bouwmeester unless the return is something they absolutely cannot turn down. I wouldn’t move Dennis Wideman, he has some shortcomings in his own zone but his work with the puck, particularly on the power play is something this teams has seen in a long time. I wouldn’t move Jiri Hudler. He is so incredibly smart with the puck and is rarely knocked off the puck. Despite becoming injury prone, I’d give Mikael Backlund another chance. He was well on his way to what appeared to be a breakout season so give him another chance. I think I’d hold on to TJ Brodie as well. He is developing nicely into a top 4 guy, Wideman has been a great mentor for him. All other are up for grabs.

In my ideal dream world, I trade Giordano for younger forward, preferably a center. I then turn around a flip Glencross for a defenseman. I put Comeau on the block and if there are no takers, I waive him.



So what do you think?


Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Let's make a deal!


I found the second fan blog segment very entertaining, as we asked you to play General Manager, and gives us your best Iginla-to-Pens proposals. There has been so many Iggy-to-Pens rumours, I thought I would ask the fans what they think we could get for Iginla.

Here is what I consider best from the submissions we got:

From John and Shaun

Thinking Beau Bennett, Olli Maatta, and a first.

Two solid prospects and a first. I really like this package, it gives us a starting point. If the Pens were to offer this, I would be very happy to receive this. Beau Bennett is the typical power forward.  I like his ability around the net, maybe in a few years he can replace Iginla. Maatta is a solid defenseman with good size and good hockey sense. He has tons of potential, and is a good solid package.


From Matt and Frank

Despres, Beau Bennett, and a first round pick - which I think is fair value.

I like this package because of Despres, a solid defencemen with Beau Bennett who has been getting a lot of ice time. He is a solid forward with a lot of potential, I still like the Bennett and Maatta offer a little more, although Despres is a play-now offer. The Flames do need a solid young d-man to come in now. 



From Terry

Flames need a second round pick. So, first, second (conditional on re-sign or cup), Brian Gibbons, Derrick Pouliot.

I would love the Flames to have Derrick Pouliot.  He is a solid d-man with loads of potential. Gibbons, a Centre, might fit into the Flames plans very well, as we are very weak down the middle. Two solid pieces, plus a first and a second conditional would be great, if the Pens would give us this much.


Stealth

I won't be at all surprised if it's Kennedy and a first, possibly another prospect.

Kennedy would be a nice addition to the Flames. He could be inserted into the line-up right now. The first round pick is a must. Also, getting another prospect would be nice for our depleted prospects. A pretty fair option, which I think the Pens would be willing to do.


Deren

Letang, Bennett, Morrow, and a first for Iginla and Nemisz.

If the Pens would do this, I think I would go screaming with delight in the street. I would also vote Feaster for Prime Minister, despite him being an American. I love Letang; he is one of the best today, Also, getting rid of Nemisz would be an awesome benefit.


Then there is the comment I got from a Pens fan:

Dee

I'll give you the Pittsburgh perspective. It’s gonna happen. But we don’t know what will happen. We are interested. 

There you have it; everyone knows the Pens are interested, it is only a matter of whether we we can put the packages together to make both parties happy.


I myself would love to get Bennett and Maatta from the Pens. It would an awesome beginning for a rebuild.

Monday, March 4, 2013

Rebuild or reload: Part One


Today's blog is part one of two: Should the Flames rebuild or reload.   We have been telling people we are a fan site, so I felt that I should put my money where my mouth is.  As a result , I thought it was time for the fans to have a sound off.  

      
Bryan Murphy ‏

Rebuild is required. I want to be heard.     

When the past shines better than there present or the future, you should know it's time to rebuild.   


This seems to be the most frustrating for the fans. Why is the most obvious option only obvious to the fans and not to the Flames? The Flames refuse to believe this team cannot win the Stanley Cup. They go through this every cycle every year. Thanks, Bryan. Bryan is a great fan who has always been a great support.

Terry

A retool/rebuild can happen IF the Flames trade Iginla, Kipper, & Bouw this year. Re-sign Iggy in off season & run with Ramo.   

Terry also had another solution;  Plan C: Getzlaf.


Terry, I really believe this is the way Feaster is planning to go. I like the addition of Getzlaf, a solid first line centre. He has all the tools to be one. Great insight, Terry


Wess

Yes, ownership and management need to know we won't accept or support this team anymore without change. Rebuild like yesterday. 

Wess added on why he wanted to be heard:  Maybe if enough fans show they support a rebuild, the Flames brass will move forward.
                             

Wess added a comment that I thought that was insightful, bringing the ownership into this. I feel they have a stronger say in this. I think that they feel there is no money in a rebuild. Just maybe everyone needs to change their thinking.  Get a little more open minded.  Ownership should listen to their fans.
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Primlar ‏

Primlar said they should have blown it up four years ago.     


Fans have been wanting this for years, Primlar is not alone. Fans have been telling me this all season, hoping over and over that someone will listen to them.          
                 

Cory 

Major changes need to happen and it starts with Iggy and Kipper. It's time to move on.  Cory adds: hope Ken king and Feaster read this.


Obviously Cory is not alone. The core of this team has not got it done. Our prospects cupboard is bare and has been bare for some time.   Here is another person hoping the Flames management is listening 


Shaun

Yes; not a year down but do need to change this mediocre culture of success. We have heard it for 2 years now, yet realistically, improvements that need to be made have not been made.


Shaun, you're making some good points. I wrote a blog just recently called the "stupid cycle" about the Flames going over the same mistakes over and over again.
  

Another Shawn:

There was another Shawn who just plainly said "rebuild". He has said this to me several times recently.  He, like other fans, is very frustrated with this team.




One of my best friends described the problem in a nutshell: When Jackmen and Begin are your best players, that should tell you something right there about this team. 

Several other fans have made comments to me:  Why is the youth like Crevenka being benched?  Why is Sven on the fourth line?  Why is it when we have a great prospect we misuse him?

I am sure there are fans out there who want to reload; but they have not come to me.  These fans feel the Flames need to change direction. I am just not so sure management  and ownership have the patience to do so.

This a part one of "Rebuild or Reload?"  We will be doing a Flames panel on the same question.




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